BBC Radio Scotland's football podcast examines Hibs' decision to dismiss club hero David Gray, the first managerial casualty of the Premiership season. Presenter Jonathan Sutherland is joined by Stephen Mc Gowan and former Celtic striker Cillian Sheridan to debate whether the board was right to act now or should have stuck with Gray longer.

The discussion covers whether Gray deserved one more game, issues around recruitment and results, and whether football managers face more pressure than ever. The panel also explores who Hibs should turn to next.

Attention then shifts to Celtic, who face a critical European night under Martin O'Neill following a bruising Old Firm defeat. The panel asks whether deeper issues are emerging or if a big European performance can provide the reset needed ahead of another huge test against Rangers.