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Kaiser nurses: AI, surveillance harm patient care

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Kaiser Permanente nurses report that workplace surveillance and artificial intelligence are negatively impacting their ability to provide patient care. Nurses handling advice and triage calls state they face criticism and performance evaluations if calls exceed 15 minutes, a metric that influences their scores. They also describe AI systems that predict unproductivity and rate their empathy and tone of voice. These concerns surface as the California Nurses Association begins new contract negotiations, having previously protested Kaiser's AI use. About 1,000 call center nurses are involved in the bargaining for the 25,000 nurses represented by the CNA.

Nurses recount instances where extended calls, necessary for critical patient situations or compassionate care, led to management scrutiny. One nurse described a call with a suicidal patient that lasted over an hour, causing anxiety about her performance metrics despite providing necessary care. Another nurse feared offering comfort to a patient with a terminal diagnosis due to the potential impact on her performance score. Despite Kaiser's defense that AI is used for patient safety and not for assessing "average handle time," nurses and advocates like Michele Ramos of Consumer Watchdog express concern that these practices prioritize profit over quality care, potentially following a pattern of cost-cutting measures that have previously led to fines for Kaiser.

While Kaiser asserts its AI systems have human oversight and prioritize patient safety, privacy, and equity, nurses argue the time constraints imposed by these surveillance tools compromise their duty of care. The potential impact on patient outcomes remains unclear, as nurses cannot definitively link call time pressures to adverse events after the call ends. However, nurses and patient advocates believe the risk to patient safety and care quality is significant, especially since many patients begin their healthcare journey with these advice lines.